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VW Successfully Tests Its First Hydrogen Fuel-Cell Car

fuelcellworks.com -- Volkswagen has announced the first long-range test drive of its innovative HY.POWER fuel-cell car. On the same mountainous journey, Volkswagen also successfully tested a high-tech Jetta Turbo Direct Injection diesel using a super-clean synthetic diesel called SunFuelÂ®. SunFuel is a non-traditional low-sulfur fuel that can be made from renewable sources such as plants, waste products and other raw materials.

Both cars were tested in the depths of winter and driven over the demanding 6,578-foot high Simplon Pass that connects Switzerland and Italy. Together with the Paul Scherrer Institute in Zurich, Switzerland, Volkswagen developed a low-cost hydrogen fuel cell with extra high performance “supercaps,” or ultra capacitors, that can store a fuel-cell engine’s electrical energy for use du

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Ray_10589 Champion Author New York Posts:2,799 Points:739,495 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Aug 27, 2010 10:04:04 AM Ignore Ray_10589 Report Abuse Glad to hear it!! Where are the US firms?
traindude Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:5,614 Points:1,245,430 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Aug 26, 2010 7:43:54 PM Ignore traindude Report Abuse glad to see someone's working on it...and winning
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,269 Points:1,143,235 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2010 6:29:54 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse H2 isn't quite new, but it's news in fuel cells. Let's hope it "flies" well ...
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,269 Points:1,143,235 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2010 6:20:49 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse TBone: prices will eventually come down.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,269 Points:1,143,235 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2010 6:19:42 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse djgunrunner: good question.
djgunrunner Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:7,596 Points:1,888,895 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2010 12:36:10 AM Ignore djgunrunner Report Abuse Once again foreign auto companies are surpassing those in America. What will it take for our government and industry to get past mind sets of corn made Ethanol, you know the stuff that is a wannabe to gas or any real fuel and takes food to make. I realize that the Germans are using a home made fuel made from waste products. I also realize that they are working with Hydrogen in a pretty heavy way. American industry fails in two out of two. So whats new? Our country will not even make or put Natural gas in cars at the factories and Natural Gas is a lot more logical than a battery powered car because we know the technology has been proven to work and is being used right now.
LoneGuy Champion Author Lansing Posts:6,153 Points:1,857,755 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2010 12:32:27 AM Ignore LoneGuy Report Abuse Hurray for the creative minds. They did this in spite of government I bet.
PetroScopper Champion Author Houston Posts:4,369 Points:1,092,485 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2010 12:27:11 AM Ignore PetroScopper Report Abuse I think this could be something that becomes popular in the future. The prices will decrease over time...
Bus561 Champion Author Lexington Posts:14,081 Points:2,754,080 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2010 12:17:55 AM Ignore Bus561 Report Abuse Still too rich for my blood. Prices need to come down more.
TBONE3 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:6,393 Points:1,511,720 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2010 12:17:02 AM Ignore TBONE3 Report Abuse Leave it to VW to do something like this. Hope the final sales price doesn't bar the lower income people from being able to buy them.
tedjm1 Champion Author New York Posts:3,545 Points:390,660 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2010 12:14:57 AM Ignore tedjm1 Report Abuse Sounds like they are going the right way for the consumer.
LocalSpyGuy Champion Author Tampa Posts:5,479 Points:1,120,320 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2010 12:14:54 AM Ignore LocalSpyGuy Report Abuse Will it be practical and affordable?
jadeusa Champion Author Dallas Posts:6,900 Points:1,371,960 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2010 12:14:16 AM Ignore jadeusa Report Abuse Progress being made slowly. Keep moving forward.
JoseM All-Star Author San Bernardino Posts:890 Points:605,010 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2010 12:13:48 AM Ignore JoseM Report Abuse Nice!
NotmeuQc Champion Author Montreal Posts:3,310 Points:668,945 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2010 12:12:44 AM Ignore NotmeuQc Report Abuse A good step in the right direction, but why are they only releasing the results made last winter, now
JohnofGB Champion Author Flint Posts:3,080 Points:632,295 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2010 12:08:38 AM Ignore JohnofGB Report Abuse There any hydrogen fuel-cell filling stations?????
PaylessKY Champion Author Kentucky Posts:6,110 Points:1,124,450 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2010 12:08:18 AM Ignore PaylessKY Report Abuse This will be very nice when they bring it to market.
rxman1 Champion Author Toledo Posts:7,001 Points:1,397,270 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2010 12:06:42 AM Ignore rxman1 Report Abuse Not when, How much?
Blue_Cruzer Champion Author Lexington Posts:5,157 Points:1,203,700 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2010 12:05:44 AM Ignore Blue_Cruzer Report Abuse Sounds too good to believe.
CobraLeader Champion Author New Jersey Posts:267,902 Points:1,200,750 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2010 12:04:42 AM Ignore CobraLeader Report Abuse ... When will this vehicle be available? ...
carlsonguitars Champion Author Portland Posts:4,641 Points:782,530 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 11:47:40 PM Ignore carlsonguitars Report Abuse I would LOVE to own a hydrogen fuel cell car, it makes much more sense - it's like an electric car WITH a range!!!!
Ray_10589 Champion Author New York Posts:2,799 Points:739,495 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 11:40:35 PM Ignore Ray_10589 Report Abuse Hope it works!!
RENEGADEGAS Champion Author Missouri Posts:12,067 Points:1,128,155 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 11:39:01 PM Ignore RENEGADEGAS Report Abuse Yeah whatever. More green crap.
panama303 All-Star Author Denver Posts:790 Points:267,120 Joined:Jan 2005	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 11:33:58 PM Ignore panama303 Report Abuse BULL BULL BULL!!!
Chris46 Champion Author Dayton Posts:17,140 Points:1,673,495 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 11:31:49 PM Ignore Chris46 Report Abuse Don't believe all the hype. Seeing is believing. Since VW couln't make the pollution demands and sent the bug to Mexico, VW hasn't did diddly in the USA.
POLELANE Champion Author Ohio Posts:7,148 Points:828,370 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 11:24:53 PM Ignore POLELANE Report Abuse I agree; why weren't the test results released in the depths of winter instead of Indian summer?
NHLiveFree Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:7,217 Points:1,171,310 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 11:21:50 PM Ignore NHLiveFree Report Abuse If these tests were done in the "depths of winter" going through a mountain pass in the Alps, why VW's long delay in announcing them. Good luck on any product from VW. The VW reliability record is abysmal! The could never spend the time and money to ever improve the Vanagon or the New Bug. The Jetta, Routan, etc. have some of the poorest reliability ratings in the long history of Consumer Reports. Plan on lots of extra dough for repairs and maintenance on these VW suckers.
waynemustang Champion Author Indiana Posts:4,666 Points:1,237,280 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 11:18:48 PM Ignore waynemustang Report Abuse Test, test, test. Where's the car? It will be decades before production. Probably never.
Rajah Champion Author Illinois Posts:6,594 Points:1,959,365 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 11:12:50 PM Ignore Rajah Report Abuse I've had several VWs years ago starting with Beetles. They're a good company with innovative ideas.
TIGERPAW46 Champion Author Florida Posts:5,158 Points:965,885 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 11:11:50 PM Ignore TIGERPAW46 Report Abuse The accomplishments in the full article sound impressive. Although the new less expensive membrane and the ultra capacitors may lessen cost and improve difficult passing, they don't say how much less. I would still like more info on safety, reliability, total cost, MPG or distance before refuel, Expense of fuel, maintenance cost, life expectancy & eventually resale value.
altima2008 Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:5,798 Points:1,273,380 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 11:11:28 PM Ignore altima2008 Report Abuse Sounds like a small step in the right direction!
JettaKnight Champion Author Toronto Posts:1,355 Points:1,713,410 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 11:08:46 PM Ignore JettaKnight Report Abuse JimL1 Phoenix "We may have the necessary infrastructure long after I have died of old age. Give us plugable hybrids that can plug into any standard household outlet at a price that is affordable, that can be done now while I am still alive." There already are small generation units that take the natural gas coming into your home, extract the hydrogen for use in fuel cell vehicles and burn the rest to provide electricity for the entire home. Are you dead yet?
Lukus Champion Author Halifax Posts:6,026 Points:1,217,360 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 11:05:42 PM Ignore Lukus Report Abuse With Solar power then it could be a great car.
dabuzman Champion Author Seattle Posts:4,399 Points:1,428,175 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 11:02:13 PM Ignore dabuzman Report Abuse Great job. So what is wrong with hydrogen used with gas engine that we us today? Can just about double the mileage but they could make a small kit to install very cheap on ever car.
defcon7 Champion Author St. Louis Posts:1,557 Points:197,525 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 11:01:45 PM Ignore defcon7 Report Abuse It can't hurt?
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:5,624 Points:1,115,325 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 10:57:18 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse VW will be the company that pulls it off
bbreff Champion Author Atlanta Posts:7,647 Points:2,129,065 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 10:51:10 PM Ignore bbreff Report Abuse One small step.
TFowler513 Champion Author Memphis Posts:2,582 Points:978,110 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 10:49:35 PM Ignore TFowler513 Report Abuse A move in the right direction.
sammynorge Champion Author Columbus Posts:1,259 Points:326,340 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 10:48:55 PM Ignore sammynorge Report Abuse At least someone on this planet is doing something to get us out from under filthy oil's thumb!
ILANGE9 Champion Author Illinois Posts:5,190 Points:1,131,750 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 10:47:51 PM Ignore ILANGE9 Report Abuse Good luck to them. Hopefully something from research can come to market before I die.
Zeke33 Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:3,872 Points:1,278,810 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 10:45:40 PM Ignore Zeke33 Report Abuse At least one maufacturer is looking at hydrogen fuel cells.
ThatHunt Champion Author Dallas Posts:4,487 Points:1,628,265 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 10:38:58 PM Ignore ThatHunt Report Abuse German design. always ahead of the rest
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:3,826 Points:681,300 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 10:32:59 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse OPEC your time is near
judgemobile Champion Author Ohio Posts:5,255 Points:1,985,195 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 10:30:48 PM Ignore judgemobile Report Abuse since we are a PRICE website, how much per gallon does the new SYNTHETIC diesel fuel cost ???
oldiesman Champion Author New York Posts:4,216 Points:1,763,875 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 10:23:31 PM Ignore oldiesman Report Abuse Sounds good.
bad_sailor Champion Author London Posts:5,565 Points:1,235,630 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 10:20:34 PM Ignore bad_sailor Report Abuse That's nice.
OGW Champion Author London Posts:3,347 Points:1,114,030 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 10:19:38 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse I have never owned a "Hitlermobile" and never will no matter how they power it!
amearly Champion Author Michigan Posts:9,755 Points:2,004,630 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 10:17:45 PM Ignore amearly Report Abuse This is a good start so once they get the bugs out hopefully they can mass produce thes so they are affordable to the average person.
hank1326 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:6,696 Points:1,280,490 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 10:02:17 PM Ignore hank1326 Report Abuse This is great news.
schatzila Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:2,708 Points:574,000 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Aug 24, 2010 10:01:55 PM Ignore schatzila Report Abuse Glad to hear another automaker entering this area.